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He (Dr Beckwith) repeatedly (two out of three aint bad) left his readers/listeners with the distinct impression that he had not read Trent until recently and insulted his former Lutheran professors by indicating they had led him to expect: to read this sort of horrible document, you know, requiring people to stick pins in their eyes, you know, and flagellate themselves, you know, So what were the Crusades and the Inquisition about, then? We just dont believe that it each of us is free to interpret every word that it contains. But 716 comments!!!??? You either make your own choices or you dont. Well, the only defense you can offer is of someone on this thread having a serious discussion, presumably about the bad behavior of White, given that the topic of both posts have been his bad behavior. Why is this man the best known Protestant a-pugilist on the net? But I will reveal the truth to you: Its too late to save James White. Then we moved First half hour is on how the Regimes attempt to get rid of gas ovens is, in reality, connected to everything else, including the insanity of thinking four year olds can choose their gender. Nor is there any hint of a purely spiritual church. I fail to see how the Bible being 100% Gods word neccessitates the rejection of the FACT that God employed human authors to convey His Word. Mary Kay, Isnt that a littleobsessive? Russ, absolutely. We are fully aware of that post, seeing as thats the only showing of Guardian so far. 5. If White were thinking rationally, he would see this. What gives? With such comments as such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though and I think this characterizes the attitude of Akins crew well and, oddly enough, corresponds with the general attitude of ignorant zeal held by those in the doctored photographs.; is there any doubt as to what CareBears motives were from the very start? Biblical salvation is a free gift, without works of self-righteousness, and is Especially since all those things were so intertwined with the liturgy that the members of the Early Church could hardly talk about them separately? Many of the posters on this site make all sorts of wild, personal and unsubstantiated accusations directly against Dr White and never seem to find the time or the courage to back up their claims by directly confronting him with factual data. I dont think its unreasonable either. Its not a simple domain preemptive registering done by Catholic Answers, nor does it seem to be related to aomin.org (they have their own website, own nameserver, etc.). Nope. Thats the analogy Im trying to draw here someone who really thinks this kind of thing is acceptable is not going to be a worthwhile interlocutor. . And then theres Luke 11, Forgive us our sins, Yes, that too is a type of relationship. Ive decided not to give up on this, in spite of a few disappointing setbacks, of which I also have been partly at fault. // Your impression of latent threats comes from an inculcated hermeneutic of suspicion. Lordship Salvation and misrepresents the heart of the debate. We do, we really, really do. Not in the slightest. Foxfier: it seems like convenient outrage. But, in the first place, not all inspired writers have been prophets or workers of miracles; in the second place, in order that prophecies or miracles may serve as proof of inspiration, it must be clear that the miracles were performed, and the prophecies were uttered, to establish the fact in question; in the third place, if this condition be verified, the testimony for inspiration is no longer merely human, but it has become Divine. I dont see how either you or White can demand that Jimmy drop whatever hes doing to give special attention to White. Fox, Really? I suppose such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though. Some other event has no relevance to this discussion. Dont attempt to single me out because you want to attempt to dismiss what I say with yet more appeals to emotion. And you know what? Essau, what are you talking about? Besides being an author, Jimmy is the Senior Apologist at Catholic Answers, a contributing editor to Catholic Answers Magazine, and a weekly guest on "Catholic Answers Live." White, J. R. Scripture Alone, Bethany House Publishers, Bloomington, MN, p.100-103. Edward, just further proves my point. That is what anti-catholic is, you know. Catholics and Protestants both believe what they say it says. I challenge you to back up your words with evidence showing where Dr. White has always proclaim(ed) victory. Already did: Again, instead of focusing on this trent fiasco why doent Jimmy Akin (since he probably is better equiped at dealing with issues white, some of the ones i mentioned in my post above.) Luke 10:25- http://www.jamesrwhite.org now points at Whites siteSuspicious, eh? Donate His Council of Rome? Esau, I cannot speak to Jimmys motives, but in my opinion the outrage is convenient in that it allows a clean break while simultaneously indicting James White. I dont see why everyone else (necessarily) has mediated knowledge. It is merely his oldest trick: be the circus mirror in which to reflect the beliefs of those who disagree with you. They were borrowed from a previous post of his involving Salmon Rushdie and, as such, were perfectly appropriate in the context of what he had to say. I would like to invite Evangelicals, including those who have been close to White, to both publicly and privately distance themselves from the actions of Mr. White in posting these pictures as an act fundamentally incompatible with Christian charity. No, sorry, that doesnt work. Remember what St. Paul said??? To Mr James White, you seem to have missed the point. I know that a great deal of technical analysis is left out, here. Which beatitude says Blessed are you who hold a debt and refuse mercy until the debtor first repays in full? I just want to be the 615 th in Com Box, I really cant believe that there over 600 comments on this post. When we Catholics agree, and point out that St Peter was given the authority by Christ Himself, according to the Bible, and we believe it, you disagree (or at least you disagree that that authority is passed down through the ages to the successors of St Peter). but immediately returns to his rants Ask the Pastor show on The Church Channel.) 2. This fellow painted Dr. White an islamic fundamentalist before Dr. White ever made the pictures in question. Admin FAX: It should be noted that even if an author does not write down a list of his or her works, a canon exists nonetheless, which he or she knows infallibly. Jesus or Paul? He chose many disciples. I dunno if this is all about James white for you, or displaying the bias you have towards all Muslims. Are you willing to put an equally harsh light on the historic abuses of Protestants? By placing the beginning paragraph or two of the lead article of their monthly magazine, This Rock, on the very cover of the work, they draw your attention into reading the rest of the article. Oh, you mean like accusing someone of a logical fallacy, which you never did substantiate? Okay, lets first examine the url post: I once posted a blog about the illogic of sola scriptura Medical staff, firefighters and police probably have their own versions of gallows humor. I dont know the history between the two of them, but it does seem as if White has some obsession about Jimmy. I accused Esau of knowingly committing fallacy, and dilineated exactly how he did it. 2. His disciples were empowered. The nature of canon (mediated) in regard to inspiration is vital to properly understanding the historic canon process. But the simplest definition of the word mystic only means one who loves God very much. Oh, thats an interesting response. Just what is it about certain combinations of notes that make us feel sad, where others make us feel happy? This is precisely what I was talking about when I mentioned a disgusting implication of moral equivalency where in fact none exists. I will do us all the honor of believing that it is truly Gods will that we wish to do, On Earth as it IS in Heaven. The vitriol and sarcasm tossed around the net these days is rather sad. Charity does include admonishing the sinner which Jimmy does by shaming Mr. Whites actions. Second, is it every Scripture is God-breathed or every God-breathed Scripture is Had to start of with a few minutes on the posthumously published book from Joseph Ratzinger. As I have already proven, (the facts have not gone refuted), the pictures do not compare Roman Catholics to terrorists. Say what you like but JW is an amazing man. Contact. OKay I do apologize for being a troll, by defintion I am one in this case. In our mortal being we crave mortal evidence of divine sanction, we seek a sign. Mark Shea has a whole blogging category, Because Rome Does Not Issue Fatwas, ridiculing such facile and paranoid comparisons. Prove his actions offensive and Ill recant. Your posts have said it. which promote a false understanding of what it Biblically means to repent. Perhaps Jimmy is confident that truth will out in the free exchange of ideas, whereas White wants the freedom to throw out anything he likes without any dissenting voices. soldiers funerals. It goes double if he/she/they all happen to be Catholic. Sola Scriptura and the Early Church in Sola Scriptura! Until he does, I dont have to answer his questions. That wont work on me. I get credit for the work I do at my job, but it doesnt involve taking glory that belongs to God. That you cant understand that displays that you are ignoring the facts in order to fiegn disgust, or youre just plain unable to deduce facts reasonably from the current situation. White has a few errors in his logic, some important, some insignificant. No one else can know infallibly know this canon outside of the authors attempt to comunicate it to othersEven those closest to the author cannot know with utter certainty whether the author has used anyone else in the writing process or borrowed from another sourceTherefore, the originator of a book has an infallible knowledge of the works, while anyone else has a mediated knowledge, dependent upon the honest and the integrity of the author and the authors desire to make the canon known to others. The second hole is that your comment was in no way a response to mine. And then were gonna to Francis Beckwith! Marketing.!!!! A reverse lookup of the addresses shows that one is hosted by theplanet.com (I use the same one for a personal site), and the other at dewdesigns.net. And I was directly responding to the content of your post, to correct it. Shortly thereafter (either as part of the original objections or in one of the immediate follow-ons) he makes what looks like a really nasty personal jibe or two. Its never too late to save anyone. The Earlier Epistle to the Ephesians When I attempted to explain that participation in the hypostatic union was a well-known element of patristic theology, from First Nicaea to Chalcedon to Second Nicaea, he hung up on me. Many in the early church actually accepted the Epistle of Clement as Scripture it was read in Corinth for over a hundred years as Sacred Scripture after Clement died. Whites posted pictures should be(have been) over (long ago), in my opinion, unless there is anyone here who would care to go further in the analysis than I. Esau, He uses hyperbolic language to suggest the Council of Trent really doesnt anathematize Protestants (even though it was written in direct response to the reforms of Luther and others) and seems to be intent on playing the lets all just get along mantra. I dont get what the big deal is with the pictures. ummmthat was in response to Bill912. of Mapname.com customer 3 Im to the point where you either have to laugh or cry. *sniffles* You dont BELIEVE me, Esau? Classic Romanist response to Sola Scriptura is to intentionally misrepresent the doctrine in order to defeat it. Im not trying to offend you but, thats not pertinent, what about the points made. Your style is like cotton candy, only without all that painful grit. No I dont and I never did so Id appreciate it if youll write a recantation to that accusation. Context is important. 2) While said random posters include those with a less-than-charitable bend (and I make no excuses for them). My web name is acutally much more personal than my given name, since there are over 500 people will my name Amanda Hicks and at least 200 who are named Amanda L. Hicks. How many videos of Baptists or Calvinists being beheaded by hooded authoritarian Catholics have been uploaded to the Internet? and The Fatal Flaw. But that was my fault because I was not clear in my intentions. With James Renihan vs. Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan, With Geoff Volker vs. Robert Strimple and Gary Johnson, With Robert Zins vs. Scott Butler and Robert Sungenis, Islam and Christianity: A Matter of Denial in Answering Islam:Countering Terror with Truth. So there were disagreements. 1. For my money, there is hardly a dimes worth of difference in approach among most of the sites Ive visited on both sides. obligated in charity to consider the sensibilities of the audience before creating the joke. How is it that he is the most ferocious agitator on the internet worrying about who crossed to Rome or even about Romes doctrine? You have no basis for assuming that someone here or at Catholic Answers is responsible for registering that domain and pointing it at catholic.com, but its implied by your comment. after continuing to escalate when several people asked to tone this down, The url led to Catholic Answers. He allows those who do not repent to choose freely to go to hell. This is one of them. As at least one person has suggested above, its time to stop feeding the energy machine. Most infamously, Foxes book of martyrs passed off the baseless libel that the Irish had been murdering Protestants, so it was absolutely just to invade them, strip them of citizenship, and persecute them for their religion. I thought it would be cool to let folks get in touch via Zoom and ask about a textual variant they particular are interested in. Not exactly the Ivy League. And theres your essential problem. May God grant us the grace and send the Holy Spirit to lead us to be ever more like Jesus. Please take a few minutes and listen as James explains. Sorry, Mary. Jonathan, that last little tidbit is an argumentum ad populum and should be recanted. I thought the 9/11 terrorists died in the crashes? Churchmouse??? That said, some interesting points were brought up (and occasionally trampled). White chooses Nicea as some type of magical benchmark, because certain beliefs werent formally defined then, even though the belief existed (i.e., transubstantiation). You have made your point abundantly clear: we deserve it. Last week I received the following e-mail, and I felt it would be best to share my response here on the blog. FAT CHANCE!!!! Puritan Board Junior. Eric Judging from the actions of White himself, he disagrees with you. here. He has lived for some time in the greater Phoenix area, in which Arizona State University resides. And enter it into the form so that it would do what it does. Amphiboly. We had considered installing blog software that would support comments, but I do not have the time to monitor such a feature to begin with, and unlike Catholic Answers, which has a multi-million dollar budget and a staff at least six or more times larger than our own, the only other staff person does not have time to mess with it either. There are actually folks who judge a person innocent merely based on an assumption. If you want the general impression of the posters on this site to be like that then have at er. Thats a joke, son. The material is evil and corrupting and the spiritual is pure and corruptible. Liar. Shouldnt this thread now be declared over? I am one who in fact still holds a debt against someone who once intentionally did me great harm and never repented. Or are you again presuming a little too much and equating rallying Islamics with 9/11 terrorists? Blessed Redeemer I might agree with some points he makes, but theyre overwhelmed by the mudslinging. Also reported on the last few nights in Opelousas (which I mispronounced at the start! Isnt that a littleobsessive? Dont you? And now we descend into argumentum ad hominem. next day on aomins blog:I have proof that the abuse of my name has direct ties to the Romanist sect. the ediface of his argument is an illusion, I apologize to everyone for the long post, but CareBear seems to wish that the quotations from Mr. White be addressed. Blog Im not interested in White and his fanboys/fangals diversion into Nicaea, sola scriptura and whatnot. Is that Catholic teaching? Mt 16:18: Registrant Country:US A. You probably think this post is about you Thats all very interesting, and Im sure God knows whos winning the ad hominem war, but it bores me to tears and I have no time for it. I should have spoken more carefully. So Dennis been living under a rock for the past week? Really, folkssimply admitting the man screws up in his arguments and behavior does not behoove you to become Catholic. Now; As far as Dr Beckwith having some moral superiority over Dr White on the issue of Charity: I think he lost that the minute he started impugning Dr Whites character and motives. Hopefully his understanding of history will fair better. Fully understandable! FAT CHANCE!!!! The most unbiblical thing in the world would be a belief in a vague and purely spiritual church. Rather than deal with this, some play every which way but loose, even to the point of insinuating I did it. One I read compared Catholicism to a tall, beautiful, magnificent cathedral whose pillars of doctrine rise and conjoin in the heights into perfectly executed arches. The Chris Pinto vs. James White debate on whether Codex Sinaiticus is a modern forgery can be boiled down to a few considerations. Your comment uhm I did post at least one specific theological question that White was asking has at least two holes in it. Your inability and/or unwillingness to consider ideas outside of your own conjecture, The Plurality of Elders in Perspectives on Church Government:Five Views of Church Polity, Justification in The Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary, The Same Sex Controversy (with Jeff Niell), Whats With the Mutant in the Microscope? Same way you can think something is right and be wrong. If you spent more time researching your claim then you might have been able to refute me instead of counting my posts. Absolutely. Store how do you determine what is Scripture and what is not??? I just cant believe people here arent just ignoring you. This does not mean that White does not know anything. Silence is the word of the day, it would seem, yet only in relation to pertinent issues. lost. However, no matter how infallible God is, us men are fallible. Im sure I can list others. Another example of uncharitable construction of anothers thoughts. Meant to say Salvation controversy by Akin, great book, was also thinkinbg of White scripture alone book which i think is also a great book lol. Hes mean, mean I tell you. Tech FAX: How do we know what decisions were made at it? And, as he is becoming more stupid, I can only imagine it as a sign that he is moving closer to Rome. May 13, 2019 - Explore Sam Roberts's board "Alpha omega tattoo" on Pinterest. Your post was very interesting, but I had the mischievous temptation as in Finding Nemo to say something like You know, for an expert in humor, that wasnt very funny. Sola Scriptura is Scripture used as the sole measure of faith. 18:17). What did you expect, applause? CB, Sandy, Gwen and the others have a filter through which they view the church, church history, and arguments against the church. Just a side thought on this URL thing, why does the one behind it have to even be a professing Christian? Purgatory, as defined by Rome today? About Why not just say, God did it, since to attribute Gods work to mans work is unbiblical. But if it is legitimate to say that God used the distinctive personalities and historical circumstances of these figures to communicate his truth, then something can be both 100% Gods doing and human beings cooperate. 2. Indeed, will He not exercise just as much divine power in establishing and fufilling His purpose for the Scriptures (their functioning as a guide to the church) as He has in inspring them? your inability and/or unwillingness to recognize that your perceptions may be filterd by a bias, Call him again Johnathan. I will not claim that Discussed the spike protein, selection pressure, Faucis constant lies, etc., as the Omicron Craze sweeps the nation. We should storm heaven with prayers for his conversion. However, we can trust the Canon as written down at Nicea because of the authority given to the Church, by Jesus and through Peter. When you gulp down the unexamined assertions of any one-true-agent-of-God-on-earth organization, you will begin to stumble down a very dark and threatening path. Jesus did not write, in a physical sense, any of the books that are included in Holy Scripture surely He could have nade it clear to even the most dense of us (me). James White chose an approach I would not have. The King James Bible So no one should respond to Hittchens or Dawkins because they are sometimes offensive? Whites explanation leaves that unanswered. 44 You are of your father the devil: and the desires of your father you will do. Anon and Carebear, M Burke criticized Francis Beckwiths doctorate, but refers to James White as Dr White? Are you interested in alpha omega tattoo designs? I have, however, read some of his recent posts, and the excerpts which you kindly supplied (which, to my mind, at least give us a basis for things to discuss). Ecce sockpuppet. Ive listened to James White. I would only add that I think I know where this comes from, or at least where the frustration comes from. When he tells a lie, he speaks in character, because he is a liar and the father of lies. Admin Postal Code:92517 I had to get over this idea that a material Church existing in time and place was somehow able to communicate spiritual blessings. q=cache:583a468Hf_IJ:www.christchurchreformed.com I probably wouldnt write a blog entry about it, though. Tawhid or Trinity: Is God One or Three Divine Persons? I suppose such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though. Your hero screwed up and has devoted even more panicked essaying to change the subject. Inocencio However, an en masse mailing would be counter-productive for at least two reasons I can think of. Ah, you are looking the wrong way. Because if he repents, you should forgive him. Exactly. I dont know. 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